Advent: Perfection in Numbers

“Jesus came to bring life and peace to our immortal souls! Work toward meeting Him on those terms!” LM

“Let us celebrate Holy Days all year long!”

Well I have to admit I may have taken much for granted finding that there is a lot of debate regarding the celebration of Jesus’ birthday. Though I find many compelling points being made I can see pros and cons both ways as if we celebrate something that is saying on the one hand it is all about Jesus while participating in extravagant indulgences of eating being merry or getting gifts versus not doing anything to commemorate the actual birth of the Savior of mankind God Himself making His appearance as one of us in the same form of an innocent baby begotten and delivered through the sanctified womb of the Holy Mary, the actual Mother of God! I see where often times Protestants want to argue blue in the face about how Catholics and many other Christian denominations are so wrong about one thing or another and I ask those Protestants how is it that you are so absolutely correct and right on all points? Not possible and Martin Luther was a heretic and I think the whole reformation was a deal gone amuck! So all this finger pointing and trying to discredit one another or call other people evil for supporting pagan holidays is not doing the world or any of us a bit of good! I ask myself would Jesus mind if I celebrate His being birthed by a human through the Holy Blessed Virgin, in any way a bad thing to do, and I get a resounding absolutely not; He wants us to love the fact that He or God chose the Salvation of we fallen sinners to be achieved by His doing it through Humanity and becoming one of us because He loves us so much He wants to become that personal and not just a God in absolute Holiness who could have saved us by some sterile or God imagined Miraculous way, but that would not be anything so personal; and we could not relate to on a person to person basis!

I think too many people these days are wasting time on things they shouldn’t be and want to pick fights with others which if you think hard is exactly what the Devil wants us to do so we are further scattered and at war with each other, ourselves and God! I see how so many people just don’t get it when it’s so simple and in your faces! I also can say we should not overindulge in these celebrations but make it a beautiful time of reflection, meditation and prayer showing genuine love for our God and Savior Jesus Christ by also loving each other on that celebration and all year long! The same for Easter we absolutely should celebrate the Resurrection and our Lord’s overcoming death for any who will listen and follow Him! Sincerity and genuine love for our God is the key; no bickering and saying this is all stupid or a waste and pagan; such a person is being ridiculous and selfish and perhaps even too self-righteous thinking they are closer to Jesus by doing it, so I don’t want to put those individuals down but if they are happy not celebrating Christmas then fine be happy in your non-celebration! I love to at least acknowledge a beautiful occasion, the birth of my Jesus our Savior and my personal Savior with genuine love and appreciation in my heart, but not over indulging in anything that would be displeasing to our Lord God!

So here are a few thoughts I found and some Scriptures to help I hope to consider the Truth of what is going on and how best we should proceed forward and “be saved which is what it’s all about!” None of us is perfect or able to account for all things and facts pertaining to when Jesus Christ was on earth; we do the best we can with what we have to work with and always consider there is room for improvements, further enlightenment, but not by shredding others or the Birth of Jesus to bits in the process!

I start with something I found in a discussion where this mother said this!

Jen H.
When I was a child, reading Jeremiah 10 is what sold me on not keeping Christmas. I was attending a Sunday keeping church at the time, and had the experience of keeping xmas. Actually, I believe that many of the holidays…not all of them, are counterfeit of God’s holy days.. God set up holy days that he commands for us to keep. My experience in keeping these holy days are more fulfilling than the holidays, that were set up by man. After I grew up, I started attending a church of God, that was more aligned with what the Bible taught. My children did not keep the holidays, and saw other children keeping them. They kept the holydays, and knew how much fun they were, and the lasting joy that goes with them. I asked them, which they preferred to keep. And they replied God’s holy days. Especially the Feast of Tabernacles, which is the most joyous of all. You don’t know the joy of God’s holy days, until you experience them for yourself. The Feast of Tabernacles includes a time of travel, centered around family and last for 8 days and not ONE anti-climactic day!

I Thessalonians 5:21. May God our Father and His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord help you to test those spirits or spirit you are hearing. Are they or is it of God?

Our Savior Jesus Christ was our Passover Lamb. These teachings are written in the 4 Gospels (Matt., Mark, Luke, and John)

Autumn would be the time frame but also agree more accurately that it is most likely during the feast of tabernacles. But I would go further and say it would be precisely ‘The Day of Atonement’ which is exactly 6 months from Passover. That would make his public ministry 3 1/2 years exactly, or 42 months or 1260 days…

Jeremiah 10:1-5
[1]Heare ye the word which the Lord speaketh vnto you, O house of Israel.
[2]Thus sayeth the Lord, Learne not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signes of heauen, for the heathen are dismayed at them.
[3]For the customes of the people are vaine: for one cutteth a tree out of the forrest (the worke of the handes of the workeman) with the axe.
[4]They decke it with siluer and with golde, they fasten it with nayles, and with hammers that it mooue not.
[5]They are vpright as the palme tree, but speake not: they must needes bee borne, because they cannot goe: be not afraid of them, for they cannot doe euil, neither also is it in them to doe good.

John 14:9 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 6:38,39 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. 39And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.

Daniel V
Jesus was born on September 23. Jesus stated his birthday when he spoke to Pontus Pilate a few weeks before his crucifixion. Although this conversation is not recorded in scripture, it was stated in Pilate’s report to Tiberius on Jesus trial. Google “Pontus Pilate report to Tiberius” He told Pilate he was born on the same day Augustus Ceasar brought peace to the world. This can only be a reference to either Augustus birthday which is Sept 23, 63 BC, or Pax Romana which started September 2, 31. Either way the numbers point to 9/23 (9/2/31)

John the Baptist was born six months before Jesus……..and J. Vernon McGee while he was alive, Billy Graham said was the worlds most renown authority on the bible….and J. Vernon Mcgee studied the date of Christ’s birthday on the 29th of September, right down to the new star that appeared in the skys, and the first day of Jubilee year, this J. Vernon McGee was one smart Pastor of the Southern Baptist church, he has been dead for 20 years now and he still has a program on the radio going through the bible in five years, every five years.

wayne herd had said:
King James Bible Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. The real problem is this day has become less about Jesus and more about giving presents. you need to stop acting like the world and start acting like true Christians. Celebrate Jesus Birthday on what day you would like to but don’t tell others when they should.
Pray and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to the truth..All Glory To God 🙂

Merry Christmas and I mean “Happy Birthday to our Savior” who was “Jesus Christ in the Flesh,” one of us our loving teacher and master the one True God Almighty on such a happy day because there are so many sad days built into this life in the flesh; so therefore we Rejoice when He who came down from heaven, our ever-living and ever-loving God Almighty our Father in Heaven; to show us how much He loves us! Amen.

Brother in Christ Jesus,
Lawrence Morra III